I was able to find out a lot about my 3rd great-grandfather, Renatus/Rhenatus Thomas. With a name like that, there weren’t that many records to sift through. Plus my grandmother remembered his name and his wife’s name and all his children’s names. Easy peasy.
Not so with Renatus’ father and grandfather, the elusive Billy Thomas, Jr. and Billy Thomas, Sr.
According to notes prepared by two of Renatus’ sons (George Washington Thomas and John Thomas) in February 1922:
Billy Thomas, Jr. was a carpenter and mill-wright by trade. He set out on a western trip in quest of better business conditions, but when he reached the vicinity of Jackson Creek [Richland County, South Carolina] he had to strike camp for several weeks on account of the illness of his little son, Rhenatus.
The lad did not improve in health sufficient to warrant his father in resuming his trip westward, so he began to do carpenter work in the neighborhood and as favorable were the conditions for employment, that he gave up all the thoughts of journeying westward and settled for life at the present site of the old Thomas cemetery. However, Billy Thomas himself is buried in the old Medlin Cemetery, near an old oak tree (now dead).
He also built the old Joel Medlin house which is still in use as a dwelling. Thus it was thru fate and disappointment of Billy Thomas, Jr. that the present Thomas generation became Southerners instead of Westerners. Rhenatus Thomas was born near Wilmington, NC. [According to census records, though, Renatus was born in South Carolina circa 1799.]
The brothers also said:
Billy Thomas, Sr., father of Billy Thomas, Jr., who was the father of Rhenatus Thomas, who was the father of John Thomas, came direct from France and settle in Habana, Maryland. [There is not a place in Maryland called Habana…then or now]
Billy Thomas, Jr was married to Polly Ralston near Fayetteville, NC and reared the following children: Rhenatus, Tempey, Betty, Dorcas and Polly.
You’d think with knowing all that would make it doable to find the Billys. Not so. In fact several of my distant Thomas cousins and myself have looked for records in Maryland, North Carolina and South Carolina and really can’t find much of anything about the Billys.
We don’t believe Billy Sr was French, but that he was on a ship that left from France. There is a Renatus Thomas in Maryland at the time that the Billys would have been there, and with an uncommon name like Renatus you might think they are related. Still, none of us have found any connection between that Renatus and the Billys or our Renatus.
Thomas Cemetery in Columbia, South Carolina
I do know the location of the old Thomas Cemetery. Some of the Thomas family is buried there. Some broken stones exist, too, probably belonging to Renatus and his wife.
Broken headstone at Thomas Cemetery
I’m pretty sure of the location of the old Medlin Cemetery, too, but the area is densely wooded and the cousin who checked it out didn’t find any stones at all.
For now, the Billys remain elusive. I am leaving that mystery for my descendants to solve.
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I am trying to find info. on Renatus Thomas who married Mary Mahala Lee Faust, whose so was John Thomas (1835-1931)
it is a tale told by the Ramsey Family in Edgemoor SC in Chester Co. that John Thomas and Robert E. Lee were first cousins.
This is my late husbands family. I can find no info, on this, John Thomas , married Sarah Catherine Cooper their daughter
Sarah married Wade Ramsey . and some how ended up in Chester County, SC Do you think you can help me?
Thanks for asking, Patricia. First, I’m sorry to say that there is no proof that the Thomas’s are cousins of Robert E. Lee. There is a often-seen mistake in the name of Renatus’s wife that persists and causes the thinking that the Thomas’s are cousins of Robert E. Lee.
Mary Mahala Faust was not a Lee before marrying a Faust, and before marrying Renatus Thomas. Her maiden name is Faust. She was known to go by Mary Mahaly Faust which was somehow twisted into Mary Mahala Lee Faust, so some people assumed that her maiden name was Lee and that an unknown Faust was her first husband. Then Renatus Thomas would be her second husband.
I have researched this, as many others have, and I am positive that Mary Mahala Faust Thomas was never a Lee.
My mom’s family (all from South Carolina) told my cousins and me that we were related to both Grant and Lee. I was disappointed to find out that this was not true, but the stories had been passed down for generations so it was just accepted as true. I think it’s something like families passing down stories that there was a Cherokee great-grandmother somewhere in the family tree. Most often, that isn’t true either.
I do have info on Renatus and his wife and their children, including John. I’d be happy to share it with you, but it would be easier to do via email. Please email me at nancyhvest@gmail.com. I’d love to continue this conversation with you. 🙂 Hope to hear from you soon.