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Billy Thomas, Jr.: into the pool with you

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This month’s Genealogy Blog Party is a pool party where we get to toss a difficult ancestor into the pool.  I’m up for that. Although I have many difficult ancestors to choose from, the top of the list is the elusive Billy Thomas, Jr.Maryland sign

What I know…actually what I might know

Billy Thomas, Jr. is my 4th great-grandfather. He came to South Carolina from Maryland in the early 1800’s according to some family history notes from his grandsons.

He was planning on going ‘west’ but settled in South Carolina instead. The notes say that Billy’s father, Billy Thomas, Sr., came to Maryland from France, not that he was French, but that the ship he took came from France. The grandsons’ information is all believable but so far not provable.South Carolina_public domain

Billy supposedly married a woman named Mary (who went by Polly) in Fayetteville, North Carolina on his way ‘west’ but their son, my 3rd great-grandfather, had taken ill so they stopped in South Carolina and ended up staying.

I think I found Billy in the 1810 census, but again, it’s not conclusive that it’s him. I can’t find a Billy Thomas in the 1820 census in the likely county or the surrounding ones, but I found a Mary Thomas living next door to Renadus Thomas, my 3rd great-grandfather, in the 1830 census. Is this Mary his mother?  Good question.  Did Billy died between 1810 and 1820? Another good question.

I found a Polly Thomas in the census for that county for 1840, but unfortunately the census was rewritten in alphabetical order so who knows if that Polly lived near the aforementioned Renadus (written as Renatus in the 1840 census).

Capitol Hill Question Mark (Washington, DC)

Capitol Hill Question Mark (Washington, DC)

Mary/Polly is missing from the 1850 census and beyond.  Dead? Living elsewhere? Just missed being counted? Who knows.

Billy is supposedly buried in The “Old” Medlin cemetery in Richland County, South Carolina. One of my cousins in South Carolina checked out the likely location for this cemetery. It’s densely wooded, and he didn’t find any stones. And no records have been located for this cemetery.

Mistaken identity?

Finally, there is a William Thomas who died in 1840 and was buried in Davidson County, North Carolina. Several researchers on that large website we all have a love-hate relationship with have decided that William Thomas is this Billy Thomas.

I’m not buying it, but it would be easier to prove that he’s not my Billy Thomas if my Billy Thomas would have left something behind like a will or a bible. Or if he’d married someone with a less common name than Mary/Polly. Or if he’d written down the names of his parents, etc. Or if Sherman hadn’t burned the courthouse in Columbia, South Carolina.

I may never know

Short of hiring a researcher, I don’t know that there’s much more I can do to find him. Instead of doing hiring a researcher, I will throw Billy in the pool and let my kids and grandkids figure out the life story of Billy Thomas, Jr.

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  1. Marian Wood says

    August 3, 2016 at 8:34 am

    Mary/Polly, Billy/William, no wonder there’s so much confusion over these ancestors! Go ahead and throw Billy into the pool. Thanks for sharing his story first 🙂

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    • NancyHVest says

      August 3, 2016 at 9:16 am

      I did feel good to imagine tossing him in. Thanks for commenting.

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  2. Linda Stufflebean says

    August 3, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    Have you checked land deeds for Billy and Mary/Polly, especially since Mary likely lived at least until 1830 and maybe even 1840? I would even check for years afterwards. One of my ancestors died in 1817, but all his heirs were listed in a land deed filed 31 years after his death.

    Common names certainly were a pain and it is even worse when they lived in a place with sparse records. Good candidate for pushing in the pool.

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    • NancyHVest says

      August 26, 2016 at 5:10 pm

      I’ll have to ask my Thomas cousins who live in South Carolina close to the records repository. If it’s not been done already, one of them can probably do it. Thanks for the suggestion, Linda. 🙂

      Reply
  3. Sue says

    August 4, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    I had to read this as my maiden name is Thomas! I don’t have US Thomas connections (that I know of!) but I’ve had my share of Thomas mysteries so I feel your pain 🙂

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    • NancyHVest says

      August 26, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      Maybe mysteries is just part of being a Thomas! Thanks for stopping by.

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  4. Andrea Kelleher says

    August 6, 2016 at 12:11 am

    Yes, Throw Billy into the Pool! I am glad the visualization provided you with some solace.

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    • NancyHVest says

      August 26, 2016 at 5:05 pm

      Andrea, it did help to toss him in. Thanks!

      Reply

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